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> I've been off the newsgroup for a couple of days and am somewhat
> surprised by the headings I have read.
>
> I am assuming from previous comments you have made, that you run this
> newsgroup.

Tbh, it's complicated.  As Ben and Dat mentioned, there's a whole situation
between myself and Gary Brew.  It's complicated.  I won't go into details.

> Michael
>
> I am somewhat surprised that whilst you appear to allow expletives
> such as cunt and fuck in the headings of the message on this
> newsgroup, you show such a strong objection to the contents of my
> recent message regarding the EURO 2004 matches.
>
> It should be remembered that kids probably log onto this newsgroup
> because it is about football and I do not think the sight of headers
> with these expletives in them I would please all of their parents

I understand your concerns, Peter, and they certainly haven't escaped my
attention.  I'm as unhappy as you are about the bad language used by some
of the more foul-mouthed members of the group in thread titles.  In the last
fortnight alone, I've counted six uses of the word "fuck" in thread subject lines,
three uses of "buggered", two uses of "cunt" and even one "babycuntbiter".
I've asked the perpetrators to tone the language down a little as we move
towards the finals and I have no doubt that they'll oblige.  However -- and
this is an important point -- UEFA were fully aware of the tendency of
UKSFers to swear when they granted the group the status of "official Euro
2004 newsgroup."  It's not that they encourage such industrial language but
they're aware that football is a passionate game, supported by passionate
people.  In short, they're more concerned with us providing a group that's
free from racism and xenophobia than stamping out every little "fuck" or
"cuntface".  And in that respect, I don't think they could have chosen a more
tolerant group.

> With regard to EURO 2004, I am also surprised at the very limited
> coverage given to the recent final round of matches on this newsgroup
> given the trouble you go to to make the point that you are the
> "official" EURO 2004 newsgroup.

Limited?  Technically, there shouldn't be any.  As James mentioned, we've
got a limit of 20% but in reality, we're only the official newsgroup for the
European Championship _finals_.  There are serious legal implications here
and if we had provided a running text commentary on all of the final group
games, as many suggested, we'd have been in breach of our contract.

> Perhaps UEFA should look at the granting of this provision given the
> small amount of coverage the competition gets here and the language
> that is allowed in your headers and therefore by association
> sanctioned by them.

I must say, Peter, I'm slightly disappointed in the level of your hostility towards
UKSF in your most recent posts.  I expected a backlash from other groups,
who haven't received this prestigious honour, but really, this is going too far.  I'm
beginning to think you're not even a real Euro 2004 fan.

Email UEFA and voice your concerns if you wish but by doing so, you'd only
be hurting the tournament itself.  Is that what you really want, Peter?


--
Mike

http://www.overanalyse.com